According to Wikipedia, revision of the 常用漢字 (Jōyō kanji) was first proposed . The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in. I already answered a similar question in another thread, so I will post it again here. The answer is quite long, however be sure to read through all of it, as it. Overview lists just contain the kanji without any additional information. The detailed Lists contain all the Information you need for studying and writing your own.

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Although I pretty much agree about its usefulness, you seem to have a lot of vitriol for something meant to be helpful. The list does serve a useful purpose for foreigners learning the language too. They learn it based on what their textbooks and learning materials decide is relevant.

Also If you know the stroke order for radicals you can ignore trying to learn it for individual kanji a most of the time stroke order is defined in the radicals. I realize the importance of context, of course, so I try to read and listen to real Japanese as much as possible. Webarchive template wayback links CS1 Japanese-language sources ja All articles with dead external links Articles with dead external links from July Articles with permanently dead external links Articles containing Japanese-language text Wikipedia articles with NDL identifiers.

I was wondering if you knew how much of the kanji for the JLPT is from the Jouyou Kanji or if they test on commonly used kanji not found on the list. The point of them is not to teach the language but make sure the important parts of the language for further education are included of parts of the language that are important for cultural reasons and scientific reasons.


So I stopped learning from it. The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in elementary school and junior high. What I think would be much more useful is an analysis of a large collection of works and solid statistical data on the frequency of each kanji.

The Jouyou Kanji

I never looked at the list as something to learn from by memorizing all the kanji jkuyou 1 to or whatever it is. Personally, I think we would have been better off without the damn list in the first place.

I actually like the jouyou list and glad ksnji cared enough to revise it some. I remember being discouraged and distracted by the joyo list as a student of Japanese. I agree completely with what you say, taekk. Knowing a single character is not going to get you anywhere. Typographic symbols Japanese punctuation Iteration mark. Simplified characters first round second round.

No one ever set any limits on novels and magazines and other publications if I recall correctly except maybe encouraging them to use furigana for hard kanji. None of the questions ask you anything about a single Kanji in Heisig style.

Kanji lists ordered by JLPT-level, Grade or Frequency of use –

By the way, Mizuumi wrote up a Polish translation of this post here: Now I know why the decorative windows in Korean restaurants look so damned Asian. Out of interest, how are they planning on fitting them into the school curriculum? Chinese Traditional characters Simplified characters first round second round Debate. That considered, it is of no used to J-2nd language learners.


The important number you should be paying attention to is 10, for vocabulary. Granted, I do have more joouyou to go, and I have a habit of making studying harder on myself than most people do.

Jōyō kanji – Wikipedia

You can find the analysis at this site http: Seriously, 29 years is too long in revising the list. Every few months i go thru the list and check off what kanji i know. A great writing, one which I agree very much.

I guess it would be useful if you were a biologist or chemist…. Retrieved from ” https: Three years later, there was news as recently as last month of a tentative list to be released in February of Views Read Edit View history.

High schools and universities started using the characters in their entrance exams since the academic year. In the past, I learned grade 1, then grade 2, then grade 3 Jouyou kanji.

2136 Jōyō Kanji by Grade

oanji I personally use the list to try to be thorough in kanjl all the kanji. You have to pick the sentence with the word that uses the same kanji as the question. Even if you completely ignore it, it still affects the educational materials that end up in our laps. If I understand correctly, only newspapers and government publications were told to try to avoid using words that use non-jouyou kanji.

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